Joan Hardy, mentor, and Seán Crudden, secretary; met for coffee and a short discussion in Ballymascanlon Hotel on Tuesday 7 August 2012 at 11.00. Kevin McGeough, joint-treasurer, and Archbishop Michael Desmond Hynes, joint treasurer, were both otherwise engaged and declined to attend. Seán and Joan discussed the spate of publicity recently about mental illness, consultation and the legislative process, professional responsibility, community development, film, ECOSOC status, the interim meeting to be held in October.